"Carbon Fiber Sasquatch" (turbopumpkin)
02/20/2020 at 19:20 • Filed to: None
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"Carbon Fiber Sasquatch" (turbopumpkin)
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Toyota explained that they were able to put AWD on the current Camry because it shares a platform with the Rav4. All the reviews seem to be fairly positive but seem to desire more power and mention the mild mpg hit. The hybrid AWD setup from the Rav4 would solve both problems. I honestly can’t figure out why this direction wasn’t taken.
NinetyQ
> Carbon Fiber Sasquatch
02/20/2020 at 19:22 |
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I’d be more interested if it was a hybrid too.
[filing that under “things I never thought I would say”]
RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht
> Carbon Fiber Sasquatch
02/20/2020 at 19:31 |
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“because you suck and we hate you" - Toyota, uncharacteristically
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Carbon Fiber Sasquatch
> RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht
02/20/2020 at 19:36 |
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BaconSandwich is tasty.
> Carbon Fiber Sasquatch
02/20/2020 at 19:41 |
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How do the prices of the Camry compare to the RAV4? I'm guessing they make more money on the RAV4 sales, so would want to push people in that direction.
Maxima Speed
> Carbon Fiber Sasquatch
02/20/2020 at 19:41 |
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How about a V6!?!?!?
wkiernan
> Carbon Fiber Sasquatch
02/20/2020 at 19:42 |
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My guess is, t
he transmission in a Toyota hybrid is a wonderfully complicated thing - check out that video! - and
adding a rear-wheel drive to it would probably be a lot more difficult than adding a rear-wheel drive to an ordinary drive train.
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Carbon Fiber Sasquatch
> wkiernan
02/20/2020 at 19:53 |
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True but the whole reason they did AWD at all is because most of the work was already done on the Rav4. Why not just take the same energy and time on the hybrid AWD instead?
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Carbon Fiber Sasquatch
> Maxima Speed
02/20/2020 at 19:54 |
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That's the only reason I can think of why they went mechanical instead, they're going to do V6 AWD later on.
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Carbon Fiber Sasquatch
> BaconSandwich is tasty.
02/20/2020 at 19:55 |
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Then why offer the AWD at all? It's only going to take away a potential Rav4 sale
For Sweden
> Carbon Fiber Sasquatch
02/20/2020 at 19:57 |
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Because we are bad peopl e who do not deserve good things
Boxer_4
> wkiernan
02/20/2020 at 20:01 |
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The AWD-i in their hybrid vehicles uses an electric motor to drive the rear wheels and does not make any changes to the eCVT as far as I’m aware. They offer this setup in the RAV4 Hybrid, so you would think they could move it over to the Camry without too much issue. Maybe they don’t want to eat into the sales of the new AWD Prius?
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Boxer_4
> Carbon Fiber Sasquatch
02/20/2020 at 20:05 |
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I’m just dissapointed that they didn’t call it the All-Trac.
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Maxima Speed
> Carbon Fiber Sasquatch
02/20/2020 at 20:09 |
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I sure hope so.
Grindintosecond
> Maxima Speed
02/20/2020 at 20:14 |
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Only 6% of cam ry sales are v6. It’s getting steep in price to offer both AWD and a 6 in a Camry before they bump into self competition with other models.
camarov6rs
> Maxima Speed
02/20/2020 at 20:16 |
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The v6 only represents 6% of all sales if I heard the videos right. So the AWD V6 would probably represent quite a bit less than that and thus not be that profitable.
I say if the Camry can take the Rav 4 AWD why can’t we have a V6 AWD Rav 4.
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> Boxer_4
02/20/2020 at 20:16 |
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Oooh, and a wagon too!
HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles
> Maxima Speed
02/20/2020 at 20:22 |
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And a manual trans. And a supercharger
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Maxima Speed
> Grindintosecond
02/20/2020 at 21:27 |
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I know it would compete but i still want it. The development is already there. They could make the camry an incredibly reliable daily driver that would be a competitor to the WRX. Imagine the gloriousness.
woodman411
> Carbon Fiber Sasquatch
02/20/2020 at 21:54 |
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Where would you put the rear electric motor? The SUV/Hatchback form allows more rear cargo room to fit it ( Highlander/RAV4/Prius), but a sedan's form makes the rear section relatively limited, and they didn't want to compromise trunk space.
GLiddy
> Carbon Fiber Sasquatch
02/21/2020 at 00:02 |
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Perhaps?
Jason Spears
> Carbon Fiber Sasquatch
02/21/2020 at 06:58 |
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It’ll all make sense after TRD adds the wing and hood scoop.
CalzoneGolem
> Carbon Fiber Sasquatch
02/21/2020 at 08:45 |
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I never realized how much I want an AWD hybrid Camry until this moment.
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> GLiddy
02/21/2020 at 08:47 |
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That’s what I figured but the L egacy is only around at this point because of the Outback and now Toyota owns a controlling stake in Subaru.
Only 35k units compared to the Outbacks 180k. The Camry sold 335k units last year for perspective.
Plus a hybrid AWD system would have been a great alternative to the Legacy for sure. The Legacy takes a significant hit on mpg because of its AWD system.
Like I said originally, it doesn't make any sense lol
jimz
> Carbon Fiber Sasquatch
02/22/2020 at 04:24 |
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Because not enough people would buy it to make it worthwhile. Even though it’s available on a platform-mate you’re still talking about hundreds of millions of dollars in development, validation, and certification costs.
Plus there’s the fact that the majority of people in this country don’t need AWD for anything.
pip bip - choose Corrour
> Carbon Fiber Sasquatch
02/22/2020 at 07:09 |
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not a big enough business case possibly?
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> jimz
02/23/2020 at 17:05 |
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I have a feeling that the AWD Camry will sell better than even Toyota thinks. My question isn't why not AWD and hybrid AWD options but why not only the hybrid AWD ? If they were going to go through all the testing for AWD why not make the Camry AWD hybrid only? I feel like they wouldn't be able to keep them on the lots.